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What compound shocked you?

What compound gave you that "damn this shit really works!" type of effect? I've tried most things out there but I've only got a few to list.


1. Tren. God damn. Everything else is go-carts, tren is nascar. Even at low doses its blows everything else out of the water for me. Cutting, bulking, strength, aesthetics, its does it all.
2. High Dose NPP. I still remember that feeling benching 315x12 while running 700mg/week. Its my favorite building and strength compound behind Tren.
3. Melanotan 2. Works as advertised. I'm as white as they come and I had people asking me if I had some Brazilian in me 😂. The boners and sex drive are unreal as well.
4. EQ for Vascularity. I know EQ isn't that popular but run it with some Tren and single digit BF%, god damn... Veins everywhere.
Mel II and Cialis stand out. Your list with tren is the obvious winner especially good tren or the old parabolan
 
Mohn, oral. Like deca and tren mixed 16-24

Superdrol but ran it solo and crushed estrogen on pct. Lost more strength and size than before the cycle, when was natty.

Trest at 300 mgs seemed potent as can be

Tren first time , five weeks 25, 50, 100, 150, 150
 
The exogenous estrogen behaves identical to aromatized testosterone for me.

I have noticed that if I have very low estrogen, I am less hungry.

With a solid 50-70pg/ml e2 that’s where I feel my best in general and my appetite feels normal.

But this is my experience when I’m running high dose test that results in this same level, or if I’m using little or zero test and all my e2 is coming in exogenously through estradiol valerate injection.
What's your test dose and Estradiol dosage for that ? I've stopped aromatising properly and now need to take estrogen to replace what's missing. Have hard time dialing it in tho
 
Naposim shocked me. How much fluid do you think you’re capable of retaining?? You’re wrong! It’s WAY more than you think it is lol…

I tell ya what was impressive, was when Twin Labs Ripped Fuel first came out! Wow, finally felt like a lean little bodybuilder after a few weeks of that :) nothing has worked quite the same since
 
Naposim shocked me. How much fluid do you think you’re capable of retaining?? You’re wrong! It’s WAY more than you think it is lol…

I tell ya what was impressive, was when Twin Labs Ripped Fuel first came out! Wow, finally felt like a lean little bodybuilder after a few weeks of that :) nothing has worked quite the same since
Oh man yeah the OG ripped fuel was nice
 
Tren and superdrol both have quick pronounced effects for me.



I Never run those anymore though. That was in my 20s.

Tren really messes with my dopamine regulations. Feels super confident and amazing the first couple weeks then it’s like my mind is running on E and I stress out really easy.

Coming off nothing felt rewarding. Takes a while to get back to normal. So overall not worth the amazing gains.
 
Oh man yeah the OG ripped fuel was nice
This morning was a tough one. Seasonal depression I suppose. Plus I didn't exercise at all yesterday as work has me building packets using scapy and replaying those packets on the network to simulate certain user experiences.
200gbps of packet replay. BAU for me, but have to look for labs with enough compute power... that's the difficult part..
Anyway I know what kills depression in an instant. eCA. So I took a scoop of preworkout and scrounged the drawers for any ephedrine tabs or even broken tabs.
Now waiting for the meds to hit. Wanting to at least walk 3miles but with the cooler weather and rain mosquitoes are out like a son... enough whining.
 
This morning was a tough one. Seasonal depression I suppose. Plus I didn't exercise at all yesterday as work has me building packets using scapy and replaying those packets on the network to simulate certain user experiences.
200gbps of packet replay. BAU for me, but have to look for labs with enough compute power... that's the difficult part..
Anyway I know what kills depression in an instant. eCA. So I took a scoop of preworkout and scrounged the drawers for any ephedrine tabs or even broken tabs.
Now waiting for the meds to hit. Wanting to at least walk 3miles but with the cooler weather and rain mosquitoes are out like a son... enough whining.
Oh man I feel you on the work thing. I’m on the pre-sales side so my work is less tedious, but goddamn if reviewing a new client architecture on AWS daily doesn’t wear ya out sometimes lol.

Love the PWO move, man. I take a scoop of Gorilla’s gamer preworkout+Kratom when I need a smooth energy glide.
 
Oh man I feel you on the work thing. I’m on the pre-sales side so my work is less tedious, but goddamn if reviewing a new client architecture on AWS daily doesn’t wear ya out sometimes lol.

Love the PWO move, man. I take a scoop of Gorilla’s gamer preworkout+Kratom when I need a smooth energy glide.
yeah.. i'm still sorting out the kratom thing.. i'm curious, but dont want to be laid out for 4+ hours being nauseus and feeling like death.
it happened before when i took some smoke shop kratom.. looked to have been an extract.. or maybe just shitty product.
there's a store that sells powder, so ill check them today... see if they have a sample..
based on that experience, ill try some of the PM suggestions.
 
What's your test dose and Estradiol dosage for that ? I've stopped aromatising properly and now need to take estrogen to replace what's missing. Have hard time dialing it in tho
Right now I’m using 0mg testosterone.

1225 EQ
700 Tren E
350 Winstrol suspension(50mg daily)
2.8mg EV (Estradiol Valerate) ( 0.8 eod)

So I was using 5.6mg per week EV and that put my e2 high at 112.4pg/ml. I was running that for 6 months too. 2.8 should theoretically put me at half that and I’ll be around 56pg/ml. I actually like my e2 high, but I’m doing an experiment and about to finish a cut and want to see if I can pull skin thickness/water with lower e2. I find in myself 1.4 mg per week EV = 20pg/ml e2 either that’s an additional 20pg/ml added to your e2 from the aromatization of Testosterone- or if your running no aromatizing drugs, then that’s just 20 outright.



the point I wanted to convey was that i actually feel the same if my e2 is 80 for example on EV and no Test or if my E2 is 80 from just Testosterone itself. The only difference I notice is after having no test in my system for several Months( and thus probably very low DHT, but I haven’t tested DHT during this yet) is that if I suddenly take Test Gel randomly, especially is applied to the scrotum where there is the highest density of 5alpha reductase, I get the strongest pre workout boost- better than anything. Stronger than Anadrol, SuperDrol, halo etc..anything. The gel works better than 100mg Test Suspension for this because you get more DHT when you apply to skin, especially so if it’s the scrotum.

Mentally though I feel normal with no test. The other androgens at the high enough dose seem to cover it fine.


The story
Might be different of i was trying to use just 150-200mg EQ for trt and using EV for the EStrsdiol . That dose of EQ might not provide enough androgenicity to cover base function at that low dose.

I’ve done most combos you can think of with no test and EV as the base to cover estrogen.

( all with EV)

Deca only
Tren only( so the Revalor cattle pellet cycle basically),
Mast/winstrol/tren
EQ/Deca
EQ/Deca/Tren/Winstrol
EQ/Tren/Winstrol
 
For me, Anadrol, and every single time. Big boost to strength, strength endurance, aggression/Focus in the gym (the good kind), Muscle blow up like balloons from the extra glycogen. And generally, also this improved sense of wellbeing.
 
Right now I’m using 0mg testosterone.

1225 EQ
700 Tren E
350 Winstrol suspension(50mg daily)
2.8mg EV (Estradiol Valerate) ( 0.8 eod)

So I was using 5.6mg per week EV and that put my e2 high at 112.4pg/ml. I was running that for 6 months too. 2.8 should theoretically put me at half that and I’ll be around 56pg/ml. I actually like my e2 high, but I’m doing an experiment and about to finish a cut and want to see if I can pull skin thickness/water with lower e2. I find in myself 1.4 mg per week EV = 20pg/ml e2 either that’s an additional 20pg/ml added to your e2 from the aromatization of Testosterone- or if your running no aromatizing drugs, then that’s just 20 outright.



the point I wanted to convey was that i actually feel the same if my e2 is 80 for example on EV and no Test or if my E2 is 80 from just Testosterone itself. The only difference I notice is after having no test in my system for several Months( and thus probably very low DHT, but I haven’t tested DHT during this yet) is that if I suddenly take Test Gel randomly, especially is applied to the scrotum where there is the highest density of 5alpha reductase, I get the strongest pre workout boost- better than anything. Stronger than Anadrol, SuperDrol, halo etc..anything. The gel works better than 100mg Test Suspension for this because you get more DHT when you apply to skin, especially so if it’s the scrotum.

Mentally though I feel normal with no test. The other androgens at the high enough dose seem to cover it fine.


The story
Might be different of i was trying to use just 150-200mg EQ for trt and using EV for the EStrsdiol . That dose of EQ might not provide enough androgenicity to cover base function at that low dose.

I’ve done most combos you can think of with no test and EV as the base to cover estrogen.

( all with EV)

Deca only
Tren only( so the Revalor cattle pellet cycle basically),
Mast/winstrol/tren
EQ/Deca
EQ/Deca/Tren/Winstrol
EQ/Tren/Winstrol
Why not just take test
 
I have about 10g of it laying around that I don’t want to use just because I’m not sure when I’ll get my hands on legit epi again lol.

Kinda like saving dessert in your fridge for when you really want it, but you save it too long and it spoils 😂.

Might have to throw some in this winter when I’m cutting up for a Mexico trip in January.

 
Forget that crap, shadiest company ever.
Finding legit HPLC tested Epi  IS possible. Ours is, and the test is very fresh too.
 

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