I have a couple cycle questions can i get yalls opinion

[kaoz]

Im taking shots mon and thurs of 400mgs test e 300mgs eq 150mgs deca each shot. I also throw in there 50 to 100mgs of prop should i just skip on the prop cuz of the flux in levels doing it only twice a week or it shouldnt hurt anything. Another question ive been using 250ius of hcg the same days is that enough or should i be doing more cuz ive always just used it at 250ius the hole way through my cycles.

 

[ShortOne]

For all cyp, enan, and all longer lasting esters best results were noticed in heifer doing eod injections( at most every 2 days). Prop and all shorter stuff should be done on a daily basis. Doing eod helps to keep hormone levels steady.

 

[MightyJohn]

EOD injections is true to keep blood levels stable although there is no evidence backing better gains from doing so....with longer acting esters every 5-7days is good enough

 

[kaoz]

So should i drop the prop from the shots and what about the hcg dosage.

 

[oldfella]

You need to know that prop has a half life of 3 days. So eod for prop will keep levels high and steady. Cyp and enanth both have half lives of 5-7 days. So e5d for them is fine. Once you build up half lives over a period of time then any more than this is a waste. 500mg/wk of cyp or enanth and throw in some prop eod should do nicely.

 

[kaoz]

SO SHOULD I DROP THE TEST E TO 5 TO 600MGS AND DO THE PROP EOD OR SHOULD I JUST DO THE TEST E AT 800 AN DROP THE PROP. I GUESS ITS ALMOST SAME EITHER WAY.

 

[Johnny Smiles]

just do one test ester, why fiddle with two?
if you aren't making gains on those original doses you posted then training is wrong or diet is wrong. or you have msxed out your results at those doses. -JS

 

[MEAN V.]

I would drop the prop, you don't need it bro. The test E, EQ, and decca should be MORE than enough, to make you grow. You can save the prop for the summer.

 

[Fireman]

well

I would drop the prop, you don't need it bro. The test E, EQ, and decca should be MORE than enough, to make you grow. You can save the prop for the summer.

Test prop can very useful as a kick start/loading phase while you wait for the long esters to kick in, and very useful also at the end of the cycle. You may want to drop the long ester test on the last 2/3 weeks of your cycle add instead the prop, meaning that you will not need to wait 2/3 weeks to start your pct but only 3 days.

GOOD LUCK

 

[kaoz]

Yea I know that prop needs to be done ed or eod. I jump started the cycle with it @ 100 eod with 600 test e. That's why I asked if I should just drop it out of the 2 shots I do cuz of the flux in levels. My traing an diet are on I'm up 15lbs just finished my 6th week but now I feel like I'm stuck I'll probably throw in an extra weight gainer shack cuz allready get 5-6 meals a day. What about the hcg dosage someone told me I was dosing to low for what I'm running.

 

[Fireman]

Yea I know that prop needs to be done ed or eod. I jump started the cycle with it @ 100 eod with 600 test e. That's why I asked if I should just drop it out of the 2 shots I do cuz of the flux in levels. My traing an diet are on I'm up 15lbs just finished my 6th week but now I feel like I'm stuck I'll probably throw in an extra weight gainer shack cuz allready get 5-6 meals a day. What about the hcg dosage someone told me I was dosing to low for what I'm running.[/QUOT

250 ius of hcg EOD its ok, i would personally take it every 4th to 5th day.

Or you could try instead clomid 50mg EOD through all cycle, it will help you also combat the estrogen sides while the hcg will tend to worst it.

GOOD LUCK

 

[Fireman]

And yes, take several protein powder shakes during the day it will help you maximize the results from the gear...

 

[kaoz]

I TAKE THE HCG MON AND THURS.

 

[Fireman]

Nice

If proper diet is in place, you might be on your way of making some serious damage out there with a nice gain of body mass...

 

[emeric delczeg]

Test prop can very useful as a kick start/loading phase while you wait for the long esters to kick in, and very useful also at the end of the cycle. You may want to drop the long ester test on the last 2/3 weeks of your cycle add instead the prop, meaning that you will not need to wait 2/3 weeks to start your pct but only 3 days.

GOOD LUCK

Prop don`t act faster than test Cyp.

 

[Fireman]

SURE IT DOES...

Prop don`t act faster than test Cyp.

NOT WANTING TO INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE BUT THERES NO NEED OF TOO MUCH MATHS TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU:

-CYP HAS A LONG ESTER- SLOW ACTING

-PROP HAS A SHORTER- FAST ACTING

-SUSP HAS NO ESTER- READY AVAILABLE

IT TAKES ALMOST 3 WEEKS FOR CYP BE FULL RELEASED ON THE BLOOD

STREAM, WITH THE PROP IT TAKES A MAXIMUM OF 3 DAYS TO BE FULL

RELEASED INTO THE BLOOD STREAM

THANKS

 

[njpooldude]

Prop don`t act faster than test Cyp.

In noway am i saying your wrong... but id love to hear the explanation for this. Only because everything ive ever read and been told was different than what u just said...
Thanks emeric

 

[kaoz]

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IVE HEARD THAT PROP DOSNT ACT FASTER THEN CYP FROM MY EXPERIENCE PROP HITS ME WAY FASTER.

 

[Fireman]

UNLESS

Prop don`t act faster than test Cyp.

YOU ARE TRYING TO POINT OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN :

- BEGINNING OF THEIR ACTION AND RELEASE TIME

-IF YOU INJECT AT THE SAME TIME AND AT THE SAME DOSAGES OF PROP ON ONE ARSE CHEEK AND CYP ON THE ANOTHER CHEEK:

THEY MIGHT START TO ACT AT THE SAME TIME BUT THE TEST PROP WOULD DO IT FASTER AND AT A QUICKER RATE.

THANKS

 

[NPCS FINEST]

Prop don`t act faster than test Cyp.

Bro I would like you to explain this alittle more to please. Thanks!