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Ozmrolympia
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Kynoselen Question?
Hi Guys,
I have a question regarding the kynoselen main ingredient, which is AMP( Adenosine monophosphate).
I have access to both Adenosine monophosphate and Adenosine-5-monophosphate. I would like to know if these are the same thing. The Adenosine-5-monophosphate is much cheaper for me here in OZ
Thanks
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Ry Roid
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Be careful w/ AMP cause it can really hurt you.
RY
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Ozmrolympia
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Ry Roid,
Have you used it and if yes, how did the experience go?
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The only use for AMP is as a vasodialtor before a show.
AMP is a VERY powerful vasodilator. If you weigh about 220, you take 400mg one hour before going on stage. Your vascularity will be mad! But be careful. I have seen 220lb people pass out if they take 500mg! The vasodilation effect is so strong, it sucks in all the oxygen that goes to the brain as well.
Syntherol Industries has a new product coming out this month - Synthelator. It's in 10ml bottles, 40mg/ml of AMP. Exactly how much you need if you are a man at abut 220. If you are a woman, then just use 5ml. I reckon this will be the next compulsory product in every competing bodybuilders arsenal.
OzMrO - yes, they are the same.
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Ozmrolympia
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Thanks A
I have a friend who is using 150mg, 1 hour before his major workouts and he loves it. He says the pumps are awesome and the vascularity is amazing. He complains about dizziness. This is obviously the vasodilation effect. He also thinks he is growing?
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johan
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so the fat burning, anti catabolic effects of kynoselen is greatly overexagerated???
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01-15-2002 04:15 AM
Ironman
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I am using Kynoselen for site injecting my bis right now
and I have never had a better pump!!!!!!!! awesome shit.........Ironman
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quote:
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Originally posted by johan
so the fat burning, anti catabolic effects of kynoselen is greatly overexagerated???
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No, they are not exagerated. However, the AMP in kynoselen can be dangerous to sensitive people - that's why you hear about the heart palpitatons on it. Syntheselen is the much better product as it contains ATP instead of the AMP which for our bodybuilding purposes it's just as useful, but it's not as strong vasodilator as AMP, so you won't get the heart probs that are possible with kyno.
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Originally posted by Ozmrolympia
Thanks A
I have a friend who is using 150mg, 1 hour before his major workouts and he loves it. He says the pumps are awesome and the vascularity is amazing. He complains about dizziness. This is obviously the vasodilation effect. He also thinks he is growing?
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No, he isnt' growing. The AMP givs him much greater vascularity, which gives him the impression of leanness which gives the impression of larger muscles. This is accentuated by the fact that larger veins can transport more oxygen and nutrients, which in turn results with temporarily fuller muscles. However, ask him - after 5 hours or so, he is noticbly flatter as far as the muscles and the vascularity goes, isn't he??
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OK..maybe Im immune to AMP. Im currently using the originall Kyno product @ 4mls EOD. According to label claim it's stating AMP@200mgs. So that would put me at taking in 800mgs of AMP? That doesnt sound right. Im thinking maybe its 200mgs of AMP in the entire 100ml bottle because I have never had any heart skips or have never noticed any increase in vascularity...and I am lean right now at 8%bf. If thats the case then that would put the AMP@ 2mgs/ml, which would be a safe dosage even at my 4mls EOD dosage. I do think that it has helped me to retain my size post cycle though. What do you guys think. Any feedback would be awesome.
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What's a heart palpitation feel like?
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bign
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so other than vascularity & pump kyno doesn't do much? i heard it was good for site enhancement and spot fat loss...any truth there?
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It doesn't work for fat spot reduction or site enhancement. However, it does burn fat overall and it helps at increasing muscle mass. It works liek a mild anabolic (primo, etc). But it doesn't affect the HPTA at all as it's 100% natural. So, it's great for bridging between cycles or to keep you lean on a bulk cycle.
Heart palpitations are when your heart start racing for no reason - it's quite a scary feeling.
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what would be a proper dose if using to bridge? i have this and some nitrotain paste that i need to know how to take...
been using AAS off and on for 5 yrs & never used these 2 compounds or done a "bridge" either...some help would be appreciated!
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The dose on the SYntheselen bottle is spot on - 1ml per 55lbs of weight. But I do that EOD, not ED as it says on the bottle, simply because I don't feel like that many injections.
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Kynoselen Question?
Hi Guys,
I have a question regarding the kynoselen main ingredient, which is AMP( Adenosine monophosphate).
I have access to both Adenosine monophosphate and Adenosine-5-monophosphate. I would like to know if these are the same thing. The Adenosine-5-monophosphate is much cheaper for me here in OZ
Thanks
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Ry Roid
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Be careful w/ AMP cause it can really hurt you.
RY
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Ozmrolympia
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Ry Roid,
Have you used it and if yes, how did the experience go?
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Big A
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The only use for AMP is as a vasodialtor before a show.
AMP is a VERY powerful vasodilator. If you weigh about 220, you take 400mg one hour before going on stage. Your vascularity will be mad! But be careful. I have seen 220lb people pass out if they take 500mg! The vasodilation effect is so strong, it sucks in all the oxygen that goes to the brain as well.
Syntherol Industries has a new product coming out this month - Synthelator. It's in 10ml bottles, 40mg/ml of AMP. Exactly how much you need if you are a man at abut 220. If you are a woman, then just use 5ml. I reckon this will be the next compulsory product in every competing bodybuilders arsenal.
OzMrO - yes, they are the same.
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Ozmrolympia
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Thanks A
I have a friend who is using 150mg, 1 hour before his major workouts and he loves it. He says the pumps are awesome and the vascularity is amazing. He complains about dizziness. This is obviously the vasodilation effect. He also thinks he is growing?
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johan
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so the fat burning, anti catabolic effects of kynoselen is greatly overexagerated???
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01-15-2002 04:15 AM
Ironman
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I am using Kynoselen for site injecting my bis right now
and I have never had a better pump!!!!!!!! awesome shit.........Ironman
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Ironwarrior
Train hard or go home!!!!
who you step on on the way up,
you may see on the way down
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Big A
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quote:
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Originally posted by johan
so the fat burning, anti catabolic effects of kynoselen is greatly overexagerated???
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
No, they are not exagerated. However, the AMP in kynoselen can be dangerous to sensitive people - that's why you hear about the heart palpitatons on it. Syntheselen is the much better product as it contains ATP instead of the AMP which for our bodybuilding purposes it's just as useful, but it's not as strong vasodilator as AMP, so you won't get the heart probs that are possible with kyno.
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01-15-2002 07:46 AM
Big A
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quote:
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Originally posted by Ozmrolympia
Thanks A
I have a friend who is using 150mg, 1 hour before his major workouts and he loves it. He says the pumps are awesome and the vascularity is amazing. He complains about dizziness. This is obviously the vasodilation effect. He also thinks he is growing?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
No, he isnt' growing. The AMP givs him much greater vascularity, which gives him the impression of leanness which gives the impression of larger muscles. This is accentuated by the fact that larger veins can transport more oxygen and nutrients, which in turn results with temporarily fuller muscles. However, ask him - after 5 hours or so, he is noticbly flatter as far as the muscles and the vascularity goes, isn't he??
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Big bi's
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OK..maybe Im immune to AMP. Im currently using the originall Kyno product @ 4mls EOD. According to label claim it's stating AMP@200mgs. So that would put me at taking in 800mgs of AMP? That doesnt sound right. Im thinking maybe its 200mgs of AMP in the entire 100ml bottle because I have never had any heart skips or have never noticed any increase in vascularity...and I am lean right now at 8%bf. If thats the case then that would put the AMP@ 2mgs/ml, which would be a safe dosage even at my 4mls EOD dosage. I do think that it has helped me to retain my size post cycle though. What do you guys think. Any feedback would be awesome.
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DESTRO
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What's a heart palpitation feel like?
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bign
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so other than vascularity & pump kyno doesn't do much? i heard it was good for site enhancement and spot fat loss...any truth there?
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Big A
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It doesn't work for fat spot reduction or site enhancement. However, it does burn fat overall and it helps at increasing muscle mass. It works liek a mild anabolic (primo, etc). But it doesn't affect the HPTA at all as it's 100% natural. So, it's great for bridging between cycles or to keep you lean on a bulk cycle.
Heart palpitations are when your heart start racing for no reason - it's quite a scary feeling.
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01-16-2002 08:09 AM
bign
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: in an apartment
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what would be a proper dose if using to bridge? i have this and some nitrotain paste that i need to know how to take...
been using AAS off and on for 5 yrs & never used these 2 compounds or done a "bridge" either...some help would be appreciated!
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5'10" 226lbs 12% bodyfat
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Big A
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The dose on the SYntheselen bottle is spot on - 1ml per 55lbs of weight. But I do that EOD, not ED as it says on the bottle, simply because I don't feel like that many injections.