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General Background:
So, the "prelude" if you will can all be found here: https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/use-of-expired-hgh.174647/ I had NOT intended to turn that in to a mini-log when originally posting; but my 5-day run of some near 3-year expired HGH (Somastim) was so incredibly awesome that I just ran with it. In a nutshell:
After experiencing EXTREMELY slow / stagnated healing (relative to injuries sustained in an accident last fall AND to the HIGH QUALITY treatment I received – i.e. stem cell from a TOP doctor who's never failed to have me up & running in PEAK performance by ~Week 4 'post-op'), I strongly suspected HGH was the missing link… and it sure seems to be based on what I detailed previously – see link above for full details and particularly post #'s 7 & 8.
Now that the party in my fridge is back in action, I've opted to begin with HGH (mainly to see if I notice any subjective differences between the Somastim VS Novotrop). IGF-1 (20 mcg/day) and/or BPC-157 (dose TBD) will soon be added.
Subjective "Measures"
***NOTE: I realize that labs are most ideal and I plan to get them at some point this year (even if it means saving one vial from this "batch"); but for more reasons than one, I may not have the opportunity to do so until June/July of this year.***
1. DECREASED Hunger / INCREASED Satiety Levels – for ME, this is perhaps THE MOST RELIABLE indication the GH is good. Although I've stated this previously, it's worth repeating: most who read this & have basic knowledge of HGH are likely thinking WTF!?! I won't write an essay here (just do a forum search on my OLD posts to dig that up!), but in a nutshell: HGH has been one of only a HANDFUL of substances I've EVER taken to effectively suppress my VORACIOUS baseline hunger levels. Although VERY MUCH improved (from when I first joined these forums), since my many year 'hiatus' from using HGH, I've still needed to take, on a daily basis: nicotine OR phentermine (for hunger suppression) AND often some caffeine (for energy).
2. INCREASED body temperature – another very prominent and unmistakable effect I experience from HGH, typically felt within 30-60 minutes after pinning but lasting many hours.
3. INCREASED energy – like with the increase in body temperature, typically felt after pinning / same day.
4. POTENT "Cues" to get to Sleep – UNLIKE when I first joined these forums, I now 'sleep like the dead' on my own (and dream EXTREMELY vividly); but the BIG thing associated with sleep is ensuring that I get my ass to bed when my body tells me it's time for sleep (something I tend to override easily). Even during my super short 5-day run of Somastim last month, I experienced such a potent release of whatever hormones are involved in making one feel sleepy that I had NO desires to fight the urge and would go right to bed. Be very interesting to see if that "trend" repeats on the Novotrop.
5. Healing – I'll simply report the results (both subjective in terms of how I'm feeling and also "objective" in terms of ultrasound checks that my doc does along the way, as well training parameters in terms of time / mileage). Extreme wilderness outings (upwards of 25+ miles and 12+ hours in a single day) are what I do!
Final Notes: while I'll do my best to make [the Somastim VS Novotrop part of the log] as fair a comparison as possible, there are several KEY differences I cannot control for that should be noted:
1. HGH: in January, I was using near 3-year expired Somastim VS now (= NEW Novotrop).
2. Hunger/Satiety Levels: are MUCH worse now (i.e. HIGHER hunger + LOWER satiety) VS when I had started the Somastim. I attribute this to my extreme inactivity (unlike when I first joined these forums, my body finally responds more normally to exercise – i.e. it helps to keep hunger in check and also improve satiety).
3. Activity (or lack thereof): although VERY MINIMAL, I had been able to walk ~7 to 11 miles per WEEK (in the 3 weeks PRIOR TO starting the Somastim) VS NOW, upon starting the Novotrop yesterday, it had been JUST over 4 consecutive weeks of ZERO walking… (more on this in 4b).
4. Healing "baseline": two key differences (aside from the obvious of more time having passed):
a) Upon starting the Somastim in January, my PRIMARY issue was lingering soreness and/or stiffness in a few of the areas injured in the accident VS now where those areas have had NO soreness, and where one has, at worst mild stiffness.
b) UNLIKE when I started the Somastim, (in fact, within a week or so of having run out of the Somastim), I started experiencing a myriad (more like an "assault") of new symptoms (most of which did NOT involve pain but had rendered me, at times, barely able to walk; hence my NON-EXISTENT activity levels). It was since discovered (via both MRI & US) that the 'assault' of new symptoms was due to having sustained nerve compression in certain areas of the body; yet the actual areas of the nerve compression somehow had ZERO pain/soreness (and still don't); hence why it had gone undetected for many months after the accident.
So, the "prelude" if you will can all be found here: https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/use-of-expired-hgh.174647/ I had NOT intended to turn that in to a mini-log when originally posting; but my 5-day run of some near 3-year expired HGH (Somastim) was so incredibly awesome that I just ran with it. In a nutshell:
After experiencing EXTREMELY slow / stagnated healing (relative to injuries sustained in an accident last fall AND to the HIGH QUALITY treatment I received – i.e. stem cell from a TOP doctor who's never failed to have me up & running in PEAK performance by ~Week 4 'post-op'), I strongly suspected HGH was the missing link… and it sure seems to be based on what I detailed previously – see link above for full details and particularly post #'s 7 & 8.
Now that the party in my fridge is back in action, I've opted to begin with HGH (mainly to see if I notice any subjective differences between the Somastim VS Novotrop). IGF-1 (20 mcg/day) and/or BPC-157 (dose TBD) will soon be added.
Subjective "Measures"
***NOTE: I realize that labs are most ideal and I plan to get them at some point this year (even if it means saving one vial from this "batch"); but for more reasons than one, I may not have the opportunity to do so until June/July of this year.***
1. DECREASED Hunger / INCREASED Satiety Levels – for ME, this is perhaps THE MOST RELIABLE indication the GH is good. Although I've stated this previously, it's worth repeating: most who read this & have basic knowledge of HGH are likely thinking WTF!?! I won't write an essay here (just do a forum search on my OLD posts to dig that up!), but in a nutshell: HGH has been one of only a HANDFUL of substances I've EVER taken to effectively suppress my VORACIOUS baseline hunger levels. Although VERY MUCH improved (from when I first joined these forums), since my many year 'hiatus' from using HGH, I've still needed to take, on a daily basis: nicotine OR phentermine (for hunger suppression) AND often some caffeine (for energy).
2. INCREASED body temperature – another very prominent and unmistakable effect I experience from HGH, typically felt within 30-60 minutes after pinning but lasting many hours.
3. INCREASED energy – like with the increase in body temperature, typically felt after pinning / same day.
4. POTENT "Cues" to get to Sleep – UNLIKE when I first joined these forums, I now 'sleep like the dead' on my own (and dream EXTREMELY vividly); but the BIG thing associated with sleep is ensuring that I get my ass to bed when my body tells me it's time for sleep (something I tend to override easily). Even during my super short 5-day run of Somastim last month, I experienced such a potent release of whatever hormones are involved in making one feel sleepy that I had NO desires to fight the urge and would go right to bed. Be very interesting to see if that "trend" repeats on the Novotrop.
5. Healing – I'll simply report the results (both subjective in terms of how I'm feeling and also "objective" in terms of ultrasound checks that my doc does along the way, as well training parameters in terms of time / mileage). Extreme wilderness outings (upwards of 25+ miles and 12+ hours in a single day) are what I do!
Final Notes: while I'll do my best to make [the Somastim VS Novotrop part of the log] as fair a comparison as possible, there are several KEY differences I cannot control for that should be noted:
1. HGH: in January, I was using near 3-year expired Somastim VS now (= NEW Novotrop).
2. Hunger/Satiety Levels: are MUCH worse now (i.e. HIGHER hunger + LOWER satiety) VS when I had started the Somastim. I attribute this to my extreme inactivity (unlike when I first joined these forums, my body finally responds more normally to exercise – i.e. it helps to keep hunger in check and also improve satiety).
3. Activity (or lack thereof): although VERY MINIMAL, I had been able to walk ~7 to 11 miles per WEEK (in the 3 weeks PRIOR TO starting the Somastim) VS NOW, upon starting the Novotrop yesterday, it had been JUST over 4 consecutive weeks of ZERO walking… (more on this in 4b).
4. Healing "baseline": two key differences (aside from the obvious of more time having passed):
a) Upon starting the Somastim in January, my PRIMARY issue was lingering soreness and/or stiffness in a few of the areas injured in the accident VS now where those areas have had NO soreness, and where one has, at worst mild stiffness.
b) UNLIKE when I started the Somastim, (in fact, within a week or so of having run out of the Somastim), I started experiencing a myriad (more like an "assault") of new symptoms (most of which did NOT involve pain but had rendered me, at times, barely able to walk; hence my NON-EXISTENT activity levels). It was since discovered (via both MRI & US) that the 'assault' of new symptoms was due to having sustained nerve compression in certain areas of the body; yet the actual areas of the nerve compression somehow had ZERO pain/soreness (and still don't); hence why it had gone undetected for many months after the accident.