My experience with high dose GH

[need4tren]

Ok, I still strongly disagree then

u clearly have not used pharm grade gh or any real gh. i honestly dont consider generics real gh. but this is a whole other issue.

u will not blow up on legit growth hormone, on lower doses of gh(8iu and under)u will have effects of fat burning, better skin, better sleep, improved recovery and increased energy over 8iu and above is what it takes for you to start producing new muscle fibers as ur igf-1 levels are high enough to do so. the higher they are the more u will produce, this takes months for you to notice, the cells need to mature. and once u have the cells, u need too feed them aas and or slin to blow them up. u can also use igf-1 but as it runs about 800$ per mg for pharm, gh is the cheapest method to do so.

now ur generic gh ull blow up on as its all fillers and anti duiretics, u think ur getting bigger, but its just ur muscle fibers swollen up from water. so those 10lb u just put on will come off within a week of stopping usage. i see no actual benefit in using generic growth, its very hard on ur body.

 

[joblogg]

Complete garbage? Find me an article/valid study that proves hypertrophy or hyperplasia happens in humans with gh. That's right you can't because it doesn't. For the last time gh is NOT ANABOLIC.

"High dose growth hormone exerts an anabolic effect at rest and during exercise in endurance-trained athletes.

Abstract
The anabolic actions of GH in GH-deficient adults and children are well documented. Replacement with GH in such individuals promotes protein synthesis and reduces irreversible loss of protein through oxidation. Although GH is known to be self-administered by athletes, its protein metabolic effects in this context are unknown. This study was designed to determine whether 4 wk of high dose recombinant human GH (r-hGH) administration altered whole body leucine kinetics in endurance-trained athletes at rest and during and after 30 min of exercise at 60% of maximal oxygen uptake. Eleven endurance-trained male athletes were studied, six randomized to receive r-hGH (0.067 mg/kg.d), and five to receive placebo. Whole body leucine turnover was measured at rest and during and after exercise, using a 5-h primed constant infusion of 1-[(13)C]leucine, from which rates of leucine appearance (an index of protein breakdown), leucine oxidation, and nonoxidative leucine disposal (an index of protein synthesis) were estimated. Under resting conditions, r-hGH administration increased rate of leucine appearance and nonoxidative leucine disposal, and reduced leucine oxidation (P < 0.01). This effect was apparent after 1 wk, and was accentuated after 4 wk, of r-hGH administration (P < 0.05). During and after exercise, GH attenuated the exercise-induced increase in leucine oxidation (P < 0.05). There were no changes observed in placebo-treated subjects compared with the baseline study. We conclude that GH administration to endurance-trained male athletes has a net anabolic effect on whole body protein metabolism at rest and during and after exercise."

High dose growth hormone exerts an a... [J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI

 

[jm425]

"High dose growth hormone exerts an anabolic effect at rest and during exercise in endurance-trained athletes.

Abstract
The anabolic actions of GH in GH-deficient adults and children are well documented. Replacement with GH in such individuals promotes protein synthesis and reduces irreversible loss of protein through oxidation. Although GH is known to be self-administered by athletes, its protein metabolic effects in this context are unknown. This study was designed to determine whether 4 wk of high dose recombinant human GH (r-hGH) administration altered whole body leucine kinetics in endurance-trained athletes at rest and during and after 30 min of exercise at 60% of maximal oxygen uptake. Eleven endurance-trained male athletes were studied, six randomized to receive r-hGH (0.067 mg/kg.d), and five to receive placebo. Whole body leucine turnover was measured at rest and during and after exercise, using a 5-h primed constant infusion of 1-[(13)C]leucine, from which rates of leucine appearance (an index of protein breakdown), leucine oxidation, and nonoxidative leucine disposal (an index of protein synthesis) were estimated. Under resting conditions, r-hGH administration increased rate of leucine appearance and nonoxidative leucine disposal, and reduced leucine oxidation (P < 0.01). This effect was apparent after 1 wk, and was accentuated after 4 wk, of r-hGH administration (P < 0.05). During and after exercise, GH attenuated the exercise-induced increase in leucine oxidation (P < 0.05). There were no changes observed in placebo-treated subjects compared with the baseline study. We conclude that GH administration to endurance-trained male athletes has a net anabolic effect on whole body protein metabolism at rest and during and after exercise."

High dose growth hormone exerts an a... [J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI

Doesn't say that it creates muscle hyperplasia which is the creation of new muscle cells.

 

[GtMuscle]

"High dose growth hormone exerts an anabolic effect at rest and during exercise in endurance-trained athletes.

Abstract
The anabolic actions of GH in GH-deficient adults and children are well documented. Replacement with GH in such individuals promotes protein synthesis and reduces irreversible loss of protein through oxidation. Although GH is known to be self-administered by athletes, its protein metabolic effects in this context are unknown. This study was designed to determine whether 4 wk of high dose recombinant human GH (r-hGH) administration altered whole body leucine kinetics in endurance-trained athletes at rest and during and after 30 min of exercise at 60% of maximal oxygen uptake. Eleven endurance-trained male athletes were studied, six randomized to receive r-hGH (0.067 mg/kg.d), and five to receive placebo. Whole body leucine turnover was measured at rest and during and after exercise, using a 5-h primed constant infusion of 1-[(13)C]leucine, from which rates of leucine appearance (an index of protein breakdown), leucine oxidation, and nonoxidative leucine disposal (an index of protein synthesis) were estimated. Under resting conditions, r-hGH administration increased rate of leucine appearance and nonoxidative leucine disposal, and reduced leucine oxidation (P < 0.01). This effect was apparent after 1 wk, and was accentuated after 4 wk, of r-hGH administration (P < 0.05). During and after exercise, GH attenuated the exercise-induced increase in leucine oxidation (P < 0.05). There were no changes observed in placebo-treated subjects compared with the baseline study. We conclude that GH administration to endurance-trained male athletes has a net anabolic effect on whole body protein metabolism at rest and during and after exercise."

High dose growth hormone exerts an a... [J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI

True but it say that HGH IS ANABOLIC...

 

[Fatboy3580]

theres a guy on here that takes just trt and 20 to 30iu hhh a day of tos black tops and h has gotten so shredded and muscular with no cycle or any other substance.
I’m doing the same now with tps goods.
I’m losing body fat while increasing Muscle mass and I’m only in my 3rd kit!

 

[Wonton]

theres a guy on here that takes just trt and 20 to 30iu hhh a day of tos black tops and h has gotten so shredded and muscular with no cycle or any other substance.
I’m doing the same now with tps goods.
I’m losing body fat while increasing Muscle mass and I’m only in my 3rd kit!

There's a guy

@slesh

You mean this guy ?

 

[Fatboy3580]

There's a guy

@slesh

You mean this guy ?

Yes exactly,lol

 

[fitnessmuscle]

I ran 10iu/day (Elis and Kefei) for a few weeks then 15iu EOD for another 5 weeks (sides from 10 ed were too much). I'm stopping for a while because I'm worried about a funky looking mole on my back.

The results have been nothing short amazing. My physique has changed so drastically that everyone I come across who hasn't seen me in a while are shocked. I saw some relatives last weekend and every single one made a comment on how much bigger I was.

I'm currently running my favorite cycle of NPP/Prop/TNE.

Big ballers on here lol, jeez that’s got to be so expensive even with generic Hgh ,10ius a day , I was thinking 10ius 3 times a week , wonder if that would have any benefit similar to your results? Tell me we’re the results worth the big money you spent? also we’re you running slin? Probably should have been at those dosages

 

[Fatboy3580]

Big ballers on here lol, jeez that’s got to be so expensive even with generic Hgh ,10ius a day , I was thinking 10ius 3 times a week , wonder if that would have any benefit similar to your results? Tell me we’re the results worth the big money you spent? also we’re you running slin? Probably should have been at those dosages

It’s not expensive with a tps generics.
It’s like a dollar an iu,3 kits a month.

 

[pistonpump]

It’s not expensive with a tps generics.
It’s like a dollar an iu,3 kits a month.

He talking about the originally poster using pharm grade. 3 kits a month is still expensive imo so I guess we do got some ballers here

 

[Fatboy3580]

I have a ton of humangrade hgh but I feel better on the golds