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So sick of this - HERE'S THE TRUTH!

Thank you Big A for that insightful statement. I have told people on this board the same thing you are saying, but a lot seem to think the opposite of what you say. :rolleyes: I won't mention any names, but you know who you are. I guess some people don't want to see the truth.
 
Thanks Big A for your honesty, it is very refreshing.
 
ha...thanks big a...its funny...in my early 20's i hung out at a nyc club that was quite a big hang out for pro BB's, i came to know a few of them and while they were under the spell of certain club drugs i had some conversations about this subject and this post pretty much puts the icing on the cake!:)
 
Awesome! finally someone that has some BALLS and don't give a shit about who it pisses off!
 
A way to put things back in perspective. Thanks.
 
I do need to point out that doing the amount of drugs the pros do is NOT healthy or sane. You will most likely screw yourself up, as most pros have done. My body is wrecked, and I was a shit pro.

So if you decide to go that path, you SHOULD think hard about it first.
 
bigA

Thanks for being truthful...and thanks for the best board around. :)
 
I do need to point out that doing the amount of drugs the pros do is NOT healthy or sane. You will most likely screw yourself up, as most pros have done. My body is wrecked, and I was a shit pro.

So if you decide to go that path, you SHOULD think hard about it first.

i think that truth is why some people preach lower doseages. i mean ill never even be a shit pro...lol...theres no reason for me to cruise on a gram a week.

its really a matter of figuring out how much your willing to risk to get to a certain size.
 
:D

Imagine if anyone else had written such a post... the lynching would have been monstrous... :D;)

Yes. And by some of the posters in this very thread too. :D I don't know if I should laugh or cry. :eek::D
 
BIG A - its really refreshing to hear an honest view of things ,if you dont mind me asking what problems have you experienced when you say your body is messed up ?

ive been on for about a year now and had some great gains but have recently experienced libido erection problems which has scared me ,i relied heavily on cialis which i used daily and just forgot about it but now that isnt working ,do you have any advise on this matter ?

what protocols did you find most effective ie ,duration of blasts and cruises ,doses used ?

thanks in advance for answering any my questions
 
Thank you Big A for being real on this subject. I would have posted this a long time ago but to be honest I figured you yourself would have banned me. :D This type of honesty will actually keep a lot of people healthy. I'll bet 99.9% of the guys on here would never use those doses even if they have them in available. I feel bad that soooooo many guys on here are led to believe that there is something wrong with them because they don't have the magic genetics of a pro. :rolleyes: Like Big A said, what will determine a pro is how their body looks like after years of training, strict diet and lots of drugs.

Bodybuilding is what YOU make of it, that is how it is defined. You can build a great looking physique with little to no drugs that's for sure. I get so pissed when people come on here and say that the pros take next to nothing because of their magical genes. At least tell the truth so a person can make a informed decision.

When I first started comepting I believed that you could build a body just like the pros naturally, but it would just take a little longer. I trained just as hard as anyone and yes I gained muscle, but not like some of the other guys who compteted. While I was training for my second show my Dr. wrote me a script for Dianabol. I took 2 a day for 50 days the last few weeks and gained 7 pounds. I came in leaner too so I call that 7 pounds pure muscle. Even after that I still believed that I could do it naturally. I even had a couple of IFBB judges tell me a had that genetics to turn pro one day. The only thing that they failed to tell me was that amounts of drugs I needed to use. :D In those days it was about a 1/4 of that amount that is used today and in the end I decided that doing those kind of doses was not for me.

I don't mind if a pro has no comment on drug use, in fact in this day and age I would recommend it, but to go around preaching that you are natural is just too misleading. Whether someone is a pro or not when you see someone walking around at 250 lean they are on a boat load of shit and if they tell you that they are taking hrt doses they are a fu%&ing liar!!!! When you see a pro or anyone for that matter go from 240 to 270 in one year the only thing they changed was the amount of drugs they did. No it wasn't their diet or training or a new exercise they are doing. I've rambled enoug but I will leave you with this. If you want to compete stick to the local shows maybe do the nationals for fun, but stay healthy and enjoy the sport cause if you want to turn pro you gonna have to triple the amount you are doing and even then the chances that you are getting a pro card..... well play the lottery instead.
 
I agree Thanks for the Truth Big A

:D:D
L O L but very true nonetheless

I Agree with Big 100% ,,,I'm not really sure what is going on with this Forum these days.. But there is obviously alot of people with Avatars that show they train (90% are probably fake!!) it is obvious that they have some kind of Self Righteous( totally over blown ego based) agenda ,,Body building or AAS in in no way some super scientific complex deal. Thank You Big A for the Reality Check for the majority of wannabe posters/self proclaimed experts.:):)
 
Thank you Big A for being real on this subject. I would have posted this a long time ago but to be honest I figured you yourself would have banned me. :D This type of honesty will actually keep a lot of people healthy. I'll bet 99.9% of the guys on here would never use those doses even if they have them in available. I feel bad that soooooo many guys on here are led to believe that there is something wrong with them because they don't have the magic genetics of a pro. :rolleyes: Like Big A said, what will determine a pro is how their body looks like after years of training, strict diet and lots of drugs.

Bodybuilding is what YOU make of it, that is how it is defined. You can build a great looking physique with little to no drugs that's for sure. I get so pissed when people come on here and say that the pros take next to nothing because of their magical genes. At least tell the truth so a person can make a informed decision.

When I first started comepting I believed that you could build a body just like the pros naturally, but it would just take a little longer. I trained just as hard as anyone and yes I gained muscle, but not like some of the other guys who compteted. While I was training for my second show my Dr. wrote me a script for Dianabol. I took 2 a day for 50 days the last few weeks and gained 7 pounds. I came in leaner too so I call that 7 pounds pure muscle. Even after that I still believed that I could do it naturally. I even had a couple of IFBB judges tell me a had that genetics to turn pro one day. The only thing that they failed to tell me was that amounts of drugs I needed to use. :D In those days it was about a 1/4 of that amount that is used today and in the end I decided that doing those kind of doses was not for me.

I don't mind if a pro has no comment on drug use, in fact in this day and age I would recommend it, but to go around preaching that you are natural is just too misleading. Whether someone is a pro or not when you see someone walking around at 250 lean they are on a boat load of shit and if they tell you that they are taking hrt doses they are a fu%&ing liar!!!! When you see a pro or anyone for that matter go from 240 to 270 in one year the only thing they changed was the amount of drugs they did. No it wasn't their diet or training or a new exercise they are doing. I've rambled enoug but I will leave you with this. If you want to compete stick to the local shows maybe do the nationals for fun, but stay healthy and enjoy the sport cause if you want to turn pro you gonna have to triple the amount you are doing and even then the chances that you are getting a pro card..... well play the lottery instead.
Nice post MAG
 
I think its funny how many people from this thread have also been in other threads preaching that pros are pros because of their training (in years) diet (for years) and genetics. Usually drugs are thrown by the wayside as an accessory, and that pros dont take as much as we assume.

Oh and as for people who are 250-270 lean HAVE to be on a "SHITLOAD" of gear, that is just not true. Lots of guys are, I know more than one, one who posts and maintains that type of size on next to no gear...
 
Oh and as for people who are 250-270 lean HAVE to be on a "SHITLOAD" of gear, that is just not true. Lots of guys are, I know more than one, one who posts and maintains that type of size on next to no gear...

i think he should have put a height part into this statement and then it would be true...i know some taller dudes that walk around tight and 250 all year long little or no juicey, but some dude who is like 5'9 250 shred is way diff then 6'4 250.
 
That's exactly what I was thinking

Yes. And by some of the posters in this very thread too. :D I don't know if I should laugh or cry. :eek::D

You know who you are :rolleyes: Just kidding!!!!

I say live and let live. What I'll do is not what most people will do.

When I have a problem/question about what's going on with me and my bodybuilding, I do a search on this board, hoping I find post from years ago that will help me out. Even if you haven't been here since the beginning you know what this forum was started for, by just searching old threads.

Would I ask a question now to the current posters? (Newbie members here less than a year, with 1500 post???) HELL NO!!! You can see the certain thread get started and you just know what it's going to turn into. And a Vet on this board never posts in those types of threads. I want expirenced answers, not what a book/study tells you.
 

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