yeah, you really need to work up to the doses im talking about.
for the most part from what ive seen 100mgs im knocks most ppl down for a few hrs.
as part of the mind fuck of it if someone really wants to try with me ill shoot myself then them. explaining that i want them to see that its all in the head. usually they dont see much besides the back of there eye lids. lol
when i first started to play with it seriously some years back i would bump 20-50mgs and do cardio. freaking great for that. the is as you can get into higher doses you can get to some really crazy head space. like time and visual distortions that seem more real then real. that said even when i was using at my heaviest which was generally 12 1 cc 100mg/ml inject ed, shot 2 at a time. sometime on admin would just get ya. talk about reprogramming, you dont even know what it is to be human for a while, mind eraser! lol
many years back i wanted to better understand my ongoing relationship with the yickyack so i got a copy of frueds cocaine diaries read that, copied his formula and dosing protocols, i also read anything i could find on his contemporaries and copied there experiments. my intent was to understand how the grandfathers of psycology who we really base much of that whole area of medicine on felt that this was a wonder drug great for therapy and helping addiction and in our modern age we see it more as a devil.
in order to eliminate the ritual of part of drug behavior which is actually really important ( this you can understand by pavlov and modern addiction sort of science) i really spaced things out, gather materials one day then compounding another and waiting a long time before i tried it. im used to doing lots of inject so that aspect eliminated any like mental association. the first time i tried it was a night and fell asleep right after doing the first inj. it was so relaxing any euphoric, not stimmy. in short what i learned is that in the ways we are used to using this we condition our self for abuse even insuffilation gives you liek a multi sensory experience which is best eliminated if you just want to see the actual chem effect. when i say im for gym it is largely because of that, that whole nose/throat feel/taste is best eliminated fo real useful use. just like k.
30mgs= slight energy and pleasant head feel like a breath of fresh air. im enough of a psyco i need to be calmed down. more gets too stimy and vasoconstrition gets in the way.