Trestolone ( ment ) fucked up my dopamine production

[juggy38]

As a recovered addict….)err lifelong recovery??)

You didn’t break your dopamine system with fucking ment. Jesus Christ.

Binging on Oreos probably hits the dopamine pathways harder than a short stint on 19 nors.

And your recovery drugs of choice are incorrect and will make the “hypothetical” down regulation worse.

If…once again “hypothetically” you wanted to correct for down regulated dopamine pathways…..

1)quit playing on your phone
2)quit jerking off or porn
3) quit any fun drugs….caffeine/nicotine/alcohol….and obviously the heavy hitters, modafinil/adderral/ritalin


Supplements would be a drop in the bucket but fuck it here’s a list

1) ALCAR
2) cdp choline
3) uridine


Drugs:

Bromantane
9-me-bc
Any strong NMDA antagonist…..ketamine/dextromethorphan

 

[Doitagain]

Good thing he hasn't developed Parkinson's.

Not sure it's good. At least it'd make more difficult to type stuff like this.

 

[Fa Seeshus]

Low dopamine levels make the face puffy....

 

[SouthernMuscle]

You know what would eliminate a lot of this bullshit? Charge for the ability to post. Anyone can register and read for free but if you want to post you have to pay. I bet we'd cut most of the bullshit threads overnight.

For the record I've posted multiple times that I wish this was a pay site and I would gladly pay a monthly fee to access, read, and post here.

Idk. Its already a two part echo chamber

Stupid questions that get repeatedly asked

Proper advice that gets repeatedly given

Its free to search and find the answers
, from most likely the same people who would give them if a new thread opened up. But still they don’t search.

They’ll see “pay to post” and think well shit I’ll do that and my thread will get more attention and I’ll get my answer, again with no searching

 

[LK3]

Hi guys ,

i made a threade before about the fact since i took ment my libido goes down a little bit , i made some changes etc my E2 mayby was too low etc

Since this last 10 days i have chronic fatigue ( i wake up , i can litterally continue to sleep ) , i sleep every 2 hours , need a nap, no sex drive, feel extremely depressed ( ai loose all my motivation gym and work ) , i m negatif all day

After some research it seems that i have a down regulation of my dopamine levels. I must say that after last thread i have stop the tren that seems not to be a good idea mayby because it boost dopamine.

I reduced the tren and add deca/npp ! after some research deca and Trest ar compounds that are lowering dopamine levels ( i dont know if im right ) and raise prolactine levels

I gonna order tyrosine, is there any treatment other than bromocriptin ( dont like it ) that i can add temporarly ? mucuna pruriens difficult to find

It easier to get a medication in a pharmacy for me as a supplement

lol
youre kidding right?
i guarantee i have blasted the dopamine centers of my brain a lot harder then that with a lot a stronger shit and not had much more then a little hangover. lol
wtf

 

[360]

Hi guys ,

i made a threade before about the fact since i took ment my libido goes down a little bit , i made some changes etc my E2 mayby was too low etc

Since this last 10 days i have chronic fatigue ( i wake up , i can litterally continue to sleep ) , i sleep every 2 hours , need a nap, no sex drive, feel extremely depressed ( ai loose all my motivation gym and work ) , i m negatif all day

After some research it seems that i have a down regulation of my dopamine levels. I must say that after last thread i have stop the tren that seems not to be a good idea mayby because it boost dopamine.

I reduced the tren and add deca/npp ! after some research deca and Trest ar compounds that are lowering dopamine levels ( i dont know if im right ) and raise prolactine levels

I gonna order tyrosine, is there any treatment other than bromocriptin ( dont like it ) that i can add temporarly ? mucuna pruriens difficult to find

It easier to get a medication in a pharmacy for me as a supplement

Stop now and never use Ment, Tren, Deca, or NPP ever again. It will fuck with your mind, even at low doses. Stick with Test only starting today and you will be back to normal within a month.

 

[nothuman]

Devil's advocate: Some of you might consider being a little more empathetic towards people who are dealing with significant symptoms that make it hard to deal with every day life. I say this as someone who has also dealt with terrible symptoms and couldn't figure out what the root cause was, and received a lot of vitriol on the internet for simply asking questions.

Remember that a human being is still sitting behind the computer.

 

[Bandy0974]

Well, personally I would guess the culprit being tren, if it’s causing depression. That was one of the more obvious effects it had on myself. That and feeling paranoia

 

[IRON1977]

Devil's advocate: Some of you might consider being a little more empathetic towards people who are dealing with significant symptoms that make it hard to deal with every day life. I say this as someone who has also dealt with terrible symptoms and couldn't figure out what the root cause was, and received a lot of vitriol on the internet for simply asking questions.

Remember that a human being is still sitting behind the computer.

hi buddy

thanks for your answer , i dont comment the rest of posts ! im member since 2006 not present all time etc but ...

English is not my mother language also , mayby i express things not on the right way

For guys , who talked about bloodwork , i m coach myself and averybody nows that i m a big advocat of bloodwork ( i just finish , the feedback on a bloodwork from one of my clients )

But the comments comes from guys that never travalled in the world and begin a new life , in a new country ! im not in egypte for tourism, i had a lot of things to manage

Now , i take some supps for dopamine, and its night and day , in just 2 days , i get huge impovements ! especially in fatigue and mentall issues

As noted im long time user 2006 ! i never get drepressed from any steroid deca, tren ! i have tried 1 gr of tren etc but i would test it and mentally no problem ! a friend of mine at 600 mg and wheight15 kg more than me ( same brand ) was fucked up !

Im ultra resistant to side effects from steroids generally ! but it seems that Ment is my weak point


" You didn’t break your dopamine system with fucking ment. Jesus Christ." it think that you have to do some research because some people report the exact same probleme with ment only cycle for exemple !

 

[bbxtreme]

hi buddy

thanks for your answer , i dont comment the rest of posts ! im member since 2006 not present all time etc but ...

English is not my mother language also , mayby i express things not on the right way

For guys , who talked about bloodwork , i m coach myself and averybody nows that i m a big advocat of bloodwork ( i just finish , the feedback on a bloodwork from one of my clients )

But the comments comes from guys that never travalled in the world and begin a new life , in a new country ! im not in egypte for tourism, i had a lot of things to manage

Now , i take some supps for dopamine, and its night and day , in just 2 days , i get huge impovements ! especially in fatigue and mentall issues

As noted im long time user 2006 ! i never get drepressed from any steroid deca, tren ! i have tried 1 gr of tren etc but i would test it and mentally no problem ! a friend of mine at 600 mg and wheight15 kg more than me ( same brand ) was fucked up !

Im ultra resistant to side effects from steroids generally ! but it seems that Ment is my weak point


" You didn’t break your dopamine system with fucking ment. Jesus Christ." it think that you have to do some research because some people report the exact same probleme with ment only cycle for exemple !

As I said in my post in your first thread critiquing your cycle that was a LOT of MENT and very little Test.

I would suggest anyone experienced using MENT for the first time start around 70-75mg a week and work up slowly from there. Less if you’re not a top level bodybuilder.

I’d venture to say your changes came from using too MUCH MENT.

Glad you found relief with supplements, but remember those are just covering things up in many cases. Ideally you’ll want to find the right dosages so you don’t have to mitigate such abrupt changes as you just experienced.

 

[IRON1977]

hi buddy

hi buddy

thanks for your answer and your empathy , you fully understood the problem that i had on the moment

i dont comment the rest of posts ! but guys a forum is to help people ! the only thing that you have do ! is judging me ! i could understand if im a newbie and member since 2 or 3 years ! before i answers to someone i always check if his an old member or not !!!

im member since 2006 not present all time etc but .....since 2006

English is not my mother language also , mayby i express things not on the right way

For guys , who talked about bloodwork , i m coach myself and everybody nows that i m a big advocat of bloodwork ( i just finish , the feedback on a bloodwork from one of my clients ) dont give me any lesson please

But if you have enough knowledge ! you can do a really precis diagnostic to know which way to go ! and confirm with the bloodwork !

But the comments comes from guys that never travalled in the world and begin a new life , in a new country ! im not in egypte for tourism, i had a lot of things to manage !!!

Now , i have take some supps for dopamine, and its night and day , in just 2 days , i get huge impovements ! especially in fatigue and mentall issues ( bloodwork will be done to confirm results )

As noted im long time user 2006 ! i never get drepressed from any steroid deca, tren ! i have tried 1 gr of tren etc i try it because i would know it and mentally no problem ! a friend of mine at 600 mg and wheight 15 kg ( his pro ) more than me ( same brand ) was fucked up !

Im ultra resistant to side effects from steroids generally ! but it seems that Ment is my weak point

Some guys make remarks because i take multiple compounds ! is it better to take multiple compounds or taking 2 gr of test year around plus the rest ??

" You didn’t break your dopamine system with fucking ment. Jesus Christ." it think that you have to do some research because some people report the exact same probleme with ment only cycle for exemple !

thanks again to Nothuman for your empathy !!!

 

[IRON1977]

As I said in my post in your first thread critiquing your cycle that was a LOT of MENT and very little Test.

I would suggest anyone experienced using MENT for the first time start around 70-75mg a week and work up slowly from there. Less if you’re not a top level bodybuilder.

I’d venture to say your changes came from using too MUCH MENT.

Glad you found relief with supplements, but remember those are just covering things up in many cases. Ideally you’ll want to find the right dosages so you don’t have to mitigate such abrupt changes as you just experienced.

i agreed

 

[nothuman]

hi buddy

thanks for your answer and your empathy , you fully understood the problem that i had on the moment

i dont comment the rest of posts ! but guys a forum is to help people ! the only thing that you have do ! is judging me ! i could understand if im a newbie and member since 2 or 3 years ! before i answers to someone i always check if his an old member or not !!!

im member since 2006 not present all time etc but .....since 2006

English is not my mother language also , mayby i express things not on the right way

For guys , who talked about bloodwork , i m coach myself and everybody nows that i m a big advocat of bloodwork ( i just finish , the feedback on a bloodwork from one of my clients ) dont give me any lesson please

But if you have enough knowledge ! you can do a really precis diagnostic to know which way to go ! and confirm with the bloodwork !

But the comments comes from guys that never travalled in the world and begin a new life , in a new country ! im not in egypte for tourism, i had a lot of things to manage !!!

Now , i have take some supps for dopamine, and its night and day , in just 2 days , i get huge impovements ! especially in fatigue and mentall issues ( bloodwork will be done to confirm results )

As noted im long time user 2006 ! i never get drepressed from any steroid deca, tren ! i have tried 1 gr of tren etc i try it because i would know it and mentally no problem ! a friend of mine at 600 mg and wheight 15 kg ( his pro ) more than me ( same brand ) was fucked up !

Im ultra resistant to side effects from steroids generally ! but it seems that Ment is my weak point

Some guys make remarks because i take multiple compounds ! is it better to take multiple compounds or taking 2 gr of test year around plus the rest ??

" You didn’t break your dopamine system with fucking ment. Jesus Christ." it think that you have to do some research because some people report the exact same probleme with ment only cycle for exemple !

thanks again to Nothuman for your empathy !!!

I'm a softie. I've probably been through more shit than most people here so I see a little bit of myself in people who are having health issues. I don't think it does anyone any good to kick people suffering while they're down.

 

[IRON1977]

I'm a softie. I've probably been through more shit than most people here so I see a little bit of myself in people who are having health issues. I don't think it does anyone any good to kick people suffering while they're down.

me too ! but thanks because i never experienced that before , i have a very strong personnality and mind normaly !

 

[big_lech]

I don't think adding in nandralone is going to help cure depression. It might be time to drop some compounds.

 

[whacked]

Devil's advocate: Some of you might consider being a little more empathetic towards people who are dealing with significant symptoms that make it hard to deal with every day life. I say this as someone who has also dealt with terrible symptoms and couldn't figure out what the root cause was, and received a lot of vitriol on the internet for simply asking questions.

Remember that a human being is still sitting behind the computer.

Classy post.

Kudos man

 

[Type-IIx]

What "research" did you do to arrive at this conclusion?

The reason I came here was to ask this very question. Good to see this.

 

[Type-IIx]

I feel like I should just say NO to this entire post.

You feel down and depressed and your solution is throw in some nandralone? The one compound known to cause depression.

You literally just started this cycle and were having issue going into it.

I’m not in Egypt so not going to comment on the bloodwork.

But stop trying to fix your health issues with other compounds. If you refuse to get bloodwork then back off everything but Test and let your body heal.

You keep saying you’re a vet with this stuff, but you’re not acting like it with these post and cycles. Not hating, just trying to help you out.

Perfect analysis, mine also.

 

[Type-IIx]

no i dont think so haha

It more likely has to do with the environment, including psychosocial factors... basically, your moving to Egypt, than any androgen.

 

[IRON1977]

Perfect analysis, mine also.

your analysis is wrong npp never made any problem to me !